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> <channel><title>Comments on: Transferring Swedish bank risk onto Latvian taxpayers</title> <atom:link href="http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html</link> <description>a finance news and opinion site</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:35:04 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Earnings results at Swedish banks show large writedowns in Baltics - Credit Writedowns</title><link>http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html#comment-5873</link> <dc:creator>Earnings results at Swedish banks show large writedowns in Baltics - Credit Writedowns</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:30:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html#comment-5873</guid> <description>[...] in the Baltics, by 10% in exchange for a Latvian government guarantee against further losses (see Transferring Swedish bank risk onto Latvian taxpayers). It is unclear whether these writedowns were taken or even if this proposal has gotten a green [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the Baltics, by 10% in exchange for a Latvian government guarantee against further losses (see Transferring Swedish bank risk onto Latvian taxpayers). It is unclear whether these writedowns were taken or even if this proposal has gotten a green [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: aitrader</title><link>http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html#comment-8315</link> <dc:creator>aitrader</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:10:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html#comment-8315</guid> <description>Correction: the IMF credit line sought by Sweden should be 100 billion Swedish Kronor, not US dollars IIRC.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is a link to some in depth coverage of the Latvia-Sweden situation written on June 17, 2009 (not by me):&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oid-ido.org/article.php3?id_article=988&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.oid-ido.org/article.php3?id_article=988&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: the IMF credit line sought by Sweden should be 100 billion Swedish Kronor, not US dollars IIRC.</p><p>Here is a link to some in depth coverage of the Latvia-Sweden situation written on June 17, 2009 (not by me):</p><p><a
href="http://www.oid-ido.org/article.php3?id_article=988" rel="nofollow">http://www.oid-ido.org/article.php3?id_article=988</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Edward Harrison</title><link>http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html#comment-8314</link> <dc:creator>Edward Harrison</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:39:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html#comment-8314</guid> <description>Good comments yet again. I agree that this is just a giveaway to Swedish banks who are trying to convince us that their exposure in Latvia is not large.  Let&#039;s not forget Estonia and Lithuania as well.  What I find striking in this story is the degree to which most banking systems have captured politicians.  This is the exact same type of thing now ongoing in the U.S.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the transfer of risk to the IMF, we are assuming the IMF steps in for Latvia.  Really, it is the taxpayer who is on the hook here because Latvia is socializing losses that Swedish banks would have taken.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments yet again. I agree that this is just a giveaway to Swedish banks who are trying to convince us that their exposure in Latvia is not large.  Let&#39;s not forget Estonia and Lithuania as well.  What I find striking in this story is the degree to which most banking systems have captured politicians.  This is the exact same type of thing now ongoing in the U.S.</p><p>As for the transfer of risk to the IMF, we are assuming the IMF steps in for Latvia.  Really, it is the taxpayer who is on the hook here because Latvia is socializing losses that Swedish banks would have taken.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: aitrader</title><link>http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html#comment-8313</link> <dc:creator>aitrader</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:26:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html#comment-8313</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;Bankföreningen har kommit med ett förslag som innebär att man ska ge ett moratorium, det vill säga en tillfällig eftergift, när det gäller amorteringar på skulderna till privatpersoner.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You translated this as:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Bankers’ Association made a proposal to provide a moratorium, that is, a temporary deferral, in the case of payments on debts to private persons.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would translate this a bit differently:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Bankers’ Association made a proposal to provide a moratorium, that is, a temporary &lt;b&gt;concession&lt;/b&gt;, in the case of &lt;b&gt;amortizing&lt;/B&gt; loan payments on debts to private persons.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In other words the loan holders will be able to make interest-only payments for a time but the loan amounts will remain unchanged.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This article seems to be based on loose babble between Swedish banks, who still think they will be able to collect their money, and the Latvian government, who still think they can avoid devaluing their currency. (Or think they can avoid devaluing it until after they receive the IMF loans).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What the Swedish banks seem to be after is a Latvian government guarantee of their loans, and I assume this would be drawn from IMF loans to Latvia, in return for a temporary suspension of loan amortization payments in lieue of interest-only payments for a period of time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As an expat yank living in Sweden I can say that my experience here is that the business acumen, particularly in the banking sector, is quite low when compared to countries like the UK, Canada, and the USA. Swedish banks do not understand the reality facing them. They still believe that someone &#039;must&#039; come to their rescue. Their first attempt, as shown in the article quoted, is to go after IMF loans to the Latvian government via a Latvian government guarantee. The backup position is the $100 billion IMF credit line sought recently by the Swedish government as a backstop for SEB and Swedbank. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Unfortunatley the losses these banks are about to experience dwarfs this amount and no amount of Latvian or Swedish government guarantees will change this. Head-in-the-sand is business as usual in these little Scandinavian contries. One would think Sweden would have learned from the result of their Icelandic cousins&#039; recent experiences. Such is unfortunately not the case.&lt;/b&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Bankföreningen har kommit med ett förslag som innebär att man ska ge ett moratorium, det vill säga en tillfällig eftergift, när det gäller amorteringar på skulderna till privatpersoner.</i></p><p>You translated this as:</p><p><i>The Bankers’ Association made a proposal to provide a moratorium, that is, a temporary deferral, in the case of payments on debts to private persons.</i></p><p>I would translate this a bit differently:</p><p><i>The Bankers’ Association made a proposal to provide a moratorium, that is, a temporary <b>concession</b>, in the case of <b>amortizing</b> loan payments on debts to private persons.</i></p><p>In other words the loan holders will be able to make interest-only payments for a time but the loan amounts will remain unchanged.</p><p>This article seems to be based on loose babble between Swedish banks, who still think they will be able to collect their money, and the Latvian government, who still think they can avoid devaluing their currency. (Or think they can avoid devaluing it until after they receive the IMF loans).</p><p>What the Swedish banks seem to be after is a Latvian government guarantee of their loans, and I assume this would be drawn from IMF loans to Latvia, in return for a temporary suspension of loan amortization payments in lieue of interest-only payments for a period of time.</p><p>As an expat yank living in Sweden I can say that my experience here is that the business acumen, particularly in the banking sector, is quite low when compared to countries like the UK, Canada, and the USA. Swedish banks do not understand the reality facing them. They still believe that someone &#39;must&#39; come to their rescue. Their first attempt, as shown in the article quoted, is to go after IMF loans to the Latvian government via a Latvian government guarantee. The backup position is the $100 billion IMF credit line sought recently by the Swedish government as a backstop for SEB and Swedbank.</p><p>Unfortunatley the losses these banks are about to experience dwarfs this amount and no amount of Latvian or Swedish government guarantees will change this. Head-in-the-sand is business as usual in these little Scandinavian contries. One would think Sweden would have learned from the result of their Icelandic cousins&#39; recent experiences. Such is unfortunately not the case.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: aitrader</title><link>http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html#comment-5804</link> <dc:creator>aitrader</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:10:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html#comment-5804</guid> <description>Correction: the IMF credit line sought by Sweden should be 100 billion Swedish Kronor, not US dollars IIRC.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is a link to some in depth coverage of the Latvia-Sweden situation written on June 17, 2009 (not by me):&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oid-ido.org/article.php3?id_article=988&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.oid-ido.org/article.php3?id_article=988&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: the IMF credit line sought by Sweden should be 100 billion Swedish Kronor, not US dollars IIRC.</p><p>Here is a link to some in depth coverage of the Latvia-Sweden situation written on June 17, 2009 (not by me):</p><p><a
href="http://www.oid-ido.org/article.php3?id_article=988" rel="nofollow">http://www.oid-ido.org/article.php3?id_article=988</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Edward Harrison</title><link>http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html#comment-5802</link> <dc:creator>Edward Harrison</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:39:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html#comment-5802</guid> <description>Good comments yet again. I agree that this is just a giveaway to Swedish banks who are trying to convince us that their exposure in Latvia is not large.  Let&#039;s not forget Estonia and Lithuania as well.  What I find striking in this story is the degree to which most banking systems have captured politicians.  This is the exact same type of thing now ongoing in the U.S.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for the transfer of risk to the IMF, we are assuming the IMF steps in for Latvia.  Really, it is the taxpayer who is on the hook here because Latvia is socializing losses that Swedish banks would have taken.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good comments yet again. I agree that this is just a giveaway to Swedish banks who are trying to convince us that their exposure in Latvia is not large.  Let&#39;s not forget Estonia and Lithuania as well.  What I find striking in this story is the degree to which most banking systems have captured politicians.  This is the exact same type of thing now ongoing in the U.S.</p><p>As for the transfer of risk to the IMF, we are assuming the IMF steps in for Latvia.  Really, it is the taxpayer who is on the hook here because Latvia is socializing losses that Swedish banks would have taken.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: aitrader</title><link>http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html#comment-5801</link> <dc:creator>aitrader</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:26:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/transferring-swedish-bank-risk-onto-latvian-taxpayers.html#comment-5801</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;Bankföreningen har kommit med ett förslag som innebär att man ska ge ett moratorium, det vill säga en tillfällig eftergift, när det gäller amorteringar på skulderna till privatpersoner.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You translated this as:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Bankers’ Association made a proposal to provide a moratorium, that is, a temporary deferral, in the case of payments on debts to private persons.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would translate this a bit differently:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Bankers’ Association made a proposal to provide a moratorium, that is, a temporary &lt;b&gt;concession&lt;/b&gt;, in the case of &lt;b&gt;amortizing&lt;/B&gt; loan payments on debts to private persons.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In other words the loan holders will be able to make interest-only payments for a time but the loan amounts will remain unchanged.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This article seems to be based on loose babble between Swedish banks, who still think they will be able to collect their money, and the Latvian government, who still thinks they can avoid devaluing their currency. (Or think they can avoid devaluing it until after they receive the IMF loans).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What the Swedish banks seem to be after is a Latvian government guarantee of their loans, and I assume this would be drawn from IMF loans to Latvia, in return for a temporary suspension of loan amortization payments in lieue of interest-only payments for a period of time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As an expat yank living in Sweden I can say that my experience here is that the business acumen, particularly in the banking sector, is quite low when compared to countries like the UK, Canada, and the USA. Swedish banks do not understand the reality facing them. They still believe that someone &#039;must&#039; come to their rescue. Their first attempt as shown in the artilce quoted is to go after IMF loans to the Latvian government via a Latvia government guarantee. The backup position is the $100 billion IMF credit line sought recently by the Swedish government as a backstop for SEB and Swedbank. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Unfortunatley the losses these banks are about to experience dwarfs this amount and no amount of Latvian or Swedish government guarantees will change this. Head-in-the-sand is business as usual in these little Scandinavian contries. One would think Sweden would have learned from the result of their Icelandic cousins&#039; recent experiences. Such is unfortunately not the case.&lt;/b&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Bankföreningen har kommit med ett förslag som innebär att man ska ge ett moratorium, det vill säga en tillfällig eftergift, när det gäller amorteringar på skulderna till privatpersoner.</i></p><p>You translated this as:</p><p><i>The Bankers’ Association made a proposal to provide a moratorium, that is, a temporary deferral, in the case of payments on debts to private persons.</i></p><p>I would translate this a bit differently:</p><p><i>The Bankers’ Association made a proposal to provide a moratorium, that is, a temporary <b>concession</b>, in the case of <b>amortizing</b> loan payments on debts to private persons.</i></p><p>In other words the loan holders will be able to make interest-only payments for a time but the loan amounts will remain unchanged.</p><p>This article seems to be based on loose babble between Swedish banks, who still think they will be able to collect their money, and the Latvian government, who still thinks they can avoid devaluing their currency. (Or think they can avoid devaluing it until after they receive the IMF loans).</p><p>What the Swedish banks seem to be after is a Latvian government guarantee of their loans, and I assume this would be drawn from IMF loans to Latvia, in return for a temporary suspension of loan amortization payments in lieue of interest-only payments for a period of time.</p><p>As an expat yank living in Sweden I can say that my experience here is that the business acumen, particularly in the banking sector, is quite low when compared to countries like the UK, Canada, and the USA. Swedish banks do not understand the reality facing them. They still believe that someone &#39;must&#39; come to their rescue. Their first attempt as shown in the artilce quoted is to go after IMF loans to the Latvian government via a Latvia government guarantee. The backup position is the $100 billion IMF credit line sought recently by the Swedish government as a backstop for SEB and Swedbank.</p><p>Unfortunatley the losses these banks are about to experience dwarfs this amount and no amount of Latvian or Swedish government guarantees will change this. Head-in-the-sand is business as usual in these little Scandinavian contries. One would think Sweden would have learned from the result of their Icelandic cousins&#39; recent experiences. Such is unfortunately not the case.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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