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	<title>Comments on: Technical recovery won&#8217;t feel like a recovery to most</title>
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		<title>By: kynikos</title>
		<link>http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/technical-recovery-wont-feel-like-a-recovery-to-most.html#comment-56703</link>
		<dc:creator>kynikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know if a decline in stock prices and corporate bonds would affect the real economy significantly...

I doubt the that difficult to get equity financing would affect the real economy. Maybe a wealth effect caused by declining stock prices (since many people are long beta for retirement in the US relative to other countries such as Germany and France) would lead to decreased consumption, but I think that has already taken place. Maybe wider corporate bond spreads would make it hard for firms to raise debt capital, but I doubt anyone would borrow during the Richard Koo balance sheet recession.

I just do not want any more bad news on the real economy although my parents would benefit from declining stock prices since they took my advice to open short positions on the S&amp;P 500 in the first week in June when it was obviously overbought. I think equities need to fall more and offer large cash yields; to me they are overvalued compared to the &quot;bubble&quot; asset of treasuries. 10 Year Treasuries at 2% might be justifiable in a deflationary environment and was justified by the fundamentals, but the technicals do not justify that because the 2% coupon does not compensate for upward yield volatility. I suppose one reason why Japanese government bonds have low yields because the volatility on that asset class is low . (although the JGBs bubble popped in 2003 causing a large 100 basis point rise in interest rates)  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know if a decline in stock prices and corporate bonds would affect the real economy significantly&#8230;</p>
<p>I doubt the that difficult to get equity financing would affect the real economy. Maybe a wealth effect caused by declining stock prices (since many people are long beta for retirement in the US relative to other countries such as Germany and France) would lead to decreased consumption, but I think that has already taken place. Maybe wider corporate bond spreads would make it hard for firms to raise debt capital, but I doubt anyone would borrow during the Richard Koo balance sheet recession.</p>
<p>I just do not want any more bad news on the real economy although my parents would benefit from declining stock prices since they took my advice to open short positions on the S&amp;P 500 in the first week in June when it was obviously overbought. I think equities need to fall more and offer large cash yields; to me they are overvalued compared to the &#8220;bubble&#8221; asset of treasuries. 10 Year Treasuries at 2% might be justifiable in a deflationary environment and was justified by the fundamentals, but the technicals do not justify that because the 2% coupon does not compensate for upward yield volatility. I suppose one reason why Japanese government bonds have low yields because the volatility on that asset class is low . (although the JGBs bubble popped in 2003 causing a large 100 basis point rise in interest rates)</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Harrison</title>
		<link>http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/technical-recovery-wont-feel-like-a-recovery-to-most.html#comment-56702</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s pretty much my view here as well, especially given the size of the rally from March.  The problem with a selloff in such a fragile economy is that it could create a feedback loop with the real economy that brings down the level of economic activity to a point where we re-visit crisis.

If we can get through September reasonably well, then the weak recovery should be the most likely outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s pretty much my view here as well, especially given the size of the rally from March.  The problem with a selloff in such a fragile economy is that it could create a feedback loop with the real economy that brings down the level of economic activity to a point where we re-visit crisis.</p>
<p>If we can get through September reasonably well, then the weak recovery should be the most likely outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: kynikos</title>
		<link>http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/technical-recovery-wont-feel-like-a-recovery-to-most.html#comment-56701</link>
		<dc:creator>kynikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually expect a weak &quot;recovery&quot; and declining equity markets despite the &quot;recovery.&quot; I think the markets would sell off during this &quot;good news.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually expect a weak &#8220;recovery&#8221; and declining equity markets despite the &#8220;recovery.&#8221; I think the markets would sell off during this &#8220;good news.&#8221;</p>
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