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	<title>Comments on: China&#8217;s skyscrapers will be ten times New York</title>
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		<title>By: Edward Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tough times are indeed ahead but this thing is moving at molasses speed.  I wonder when it will break one way or another?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Right now we&#039;re just muddling through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tough times are indeed ahead but this thing is moving at molasses speed.  I wonder when it will break one way or another?</p>
<p>Right now we&#8217;re just muddling through.</p>
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		<title>By: MAB</title>
		<link>http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2008/08/chinas-skyscrapers-will-be-ten-times.html#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>MAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 04:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;I do fear inflation, which is why I think that commodities will do well. But I fear asset price deflation a lot more right now.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I felt that way too until commodities soared.  My thinking was that since we won&#039;t allow deflation, the money had to go somewhere - commodities were the last non-bubble asset class.  Well, the money flowed to the low point, but the tapped out majority cried uncle.  Going forward, it&#039;s the 70s without the real estate inflation.   &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In the 1970s, the U.S. had CPI inflation coupled with stock &amp; bond deflation.  An ugly combination for sure.  But real estate (and commodities) in the 1970s inflated.  So did wages.  Real estate inflation not only prevented a credit deflation, it caused a credit inflation.  Lenders got paid back, albeit with devalued $.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Today, I just can&#039;t see lenders getting their money back absent outright money printing.  Way too many bad loans.  If things play out as they should, a pile of our ficticious paper wealth will vaporize - stocks, bonds, real estate AND commodities.  That said, real cost of living will rise for most.  Too many foreigners willing to work for less.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A potential saving grace, if there is one, is that throughout U.S. history, real growth is not dependent upon a bloated financial sector or excessive credit. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tough times ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p><i>I do fear inflation, which is why I think that commodities will do well. But I fear asset price deflation a lot more right now.</i></p>
<p>I felt that way too until commodities soared.  My thinking was that since we won&#39;t allow deflation, the money had to go somewhere &#8211; commodities were the last non-bubble asset class.  Well, the money flowed to the low point, but the tapped out majority cried uncle.  Going forward, it&#39;s the 70s without the real estate inflation.   </p>
<p>In the 1970s, the U.S. had CPI inflation coupled with stock &amp; bond deflation.  An ugly combination for sure.  But real estate (and commodities) in the 1970s inflated.  So did wages.  Real estate inflation not only prevented a credit deflation, it caused a credit inflation.  Lenders got paid back, albeit with devalued $.  </p>
<p>Today, I just can&#39;t see lenders getting their money back absent outright money printing.  Way too many bad loans.  If things play out as they should, a pile of our ficticious paper wealth will vaporize &#8211; stocks, bonds, real estate AND commodities.  That said, real cost of living will rise for most.  Too many foreigners willing to work for less.  </p>
<p>A potential saving grace, if there is one, is that throughout U.S. history, real growth is not dependent upon a bloated financial sector or excessive credit. </p>
<p>Tough times ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Harrison</title>
		<link>http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2008/08/chinas-skyscrapers-will-be-ten-times.html#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MAB,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;True, if commodities rise that is bad for inflation.  But, I do think we will see at least moderate commodity inflation for a while even as credit and asset deflation take hold.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Honestly, I really can&#039;t square the two 100% with each other.  And, I do fear inflation, which is why I think that commodities will do well.  But I fear asset price deflation a lot more right now.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MAB,</p>
<p>True, if commodities rise that is bad for inflation.  But, I do think we will see at least moderate commodity inflation for a while even as credit and asset deflation take hold.</p>
<p>Honestly, I really can&#8217;t square the two 100% with each other.  And, I do fear inflation, which is why I think that commodities will do well.  But I fear asset price deflation a lot more right now.</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: MAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;I&#039;m pretty bullish on commodities long-term myself&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That doesn&#039;t seem to square with your deflation thesis (credit destruction).  Are you starting to fear inflation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p><i>I&#8217;m pretty bullish on commodities long-term myself</i></p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t seem to square with your deflation thesis (credit destruction).  Are you starting to fear inflation?</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Harrison</title>
		<link>http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2008/08/chinas-skyscrapers-will-be-ten-times.html#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty bullish on commodities long-term myself but he and the associated report sound overly optimistic.  My natural contrarian instincts come out when I hear something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty bullish on commodities long-term myself but he and the associated report sound overly optimistic.  My natural contrarian instincts come out when I hear something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sobers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sobers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like Mr Albanese is another &quot;it&#039;s different this time&quot; proponent. As I recall all the others who have stated this in the past have ended up looking rather foolish. I suspect the same will happen here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like Mr Albanese is another &#8220;it&#8217;s different this time&#8221; proponent. As I recall all the others who have stated this in the past have ended up looking rather foolish. I suspect the same will happen here.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To summarise - &quot;Trees grow to the sky&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To summarise &#8211; &#8220;Trees grow to the sky&#8221;.</p>
<p>Nick</p>
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